Meera Nanda, an Indian skeptic and atheist, has written a rather naïve article criticizing spirituality and especially Sam Harris’ so-called ‘mystifications’. In her attempt to be an equal-opportunity skeptic, she has neglected to engage in decent philosophizing or respectable research. This post is an explanation for my disagreement with her.
In her article she has misrepresented Sam Harris’ philosophy, as well as made errors both in reasoning and in fact. Her errors are the following:
She says: ‘While he is quick to pour scorn on such childish ideas as the virgin birth, heaven and hell, the great rationalist has only winks and nods to offer when it comes to such “higher” truths as near-death experiences, ESP and the existence of disembodied souls, all of which he finds plausible.’
Sam Harris does not refer to ESP as a higher truth, but suggests that it is worth considering that people have had psychic experiences, including experiences where they remember seeing themselves during comas and while approaching death. Merely to consider something is not to accept it thoughtlessly. The rhetoric that people such as Meera Nanda and other ‘rationalists’ use of scientific rigor and skepticism derives its power from the positive connotation surrounding notions that decent, intelligent people value. When we hear ’scientific’ it sounds nice and warm, but when we hear ‘unscientific’ or ‘anti-science’ it sounds harsh and accusatory. Why is this so? Because scientific rigor is something people rightly see as good and valuable. What Meera Nanda is offering is not scientific rigor, but an anti-intellectual attitude of narrow-mindedness and rigidity, which she sells in the shiny packaging of the same enterprise that she abuses in the process.
The notion of a disembodied soul, or more palatably, the proposition that consciousness is not an epiphenomenon of our brains stands beside the proposition that it is. Science – an epistemology – cannot entail either a materialistic or non-materialistic ontology. Scienticians are prone to believing that science ‘proves’ the absence of non-material reality, simply because science is only equipped to deal with material reality. But even a rudimentary exposure to logical entailment should help anyone understand the problem with this reasoning. Supposing there was a non-material reality, knowable through a non-scientific epistemology (though prima facie I don’t see why it can’t be knowable through a scientific one, but we’ll forget that for now), and people are using that epistemology for its domain and science for the material domain. Is there any impossibility in this? The answer is ‘no’. The scenario seems odd, but it is by no means impossible.
For those who are wondering what skeptics have on the gullible who believe ghosts can cause illnesses and witches can put curses on you, the answer lies in pragmatism. The cancer patient who just puts crystals on his body is not likely to survive as long as the one who visits a hospital. There are good reasons to be skeptical, and they do not involve logically unjustified denials of anything that has not made up the subject matter of science yet, or that ever will. Sam Harris’ distinction between believing in a virgin birth and believing in a non-material consciousness can be justified pragmatically: a virgin birth is an event in the material world, and the positing of supernatural intervention has not served us well in understanding material problems (such as illnesses, how to have babies, how not to have babies, how to get from point A to point B and so on). If you’re infertile, prayer won’t help you, but fertility medication will. Thus, using pragmatism, we can designate a general area of ‘the world’ (meaning that which is relevant to us, which we interact with) to an epistemology that is most fit – that is, most useful – within that area. But to propose that no area exists other than the one designated to your favourite epistemology is quite another matter.
‘…even the most militant rationalist will have to admit that meditation does provide some benefits. (It does not follow, however, that all the claims of yoga and pranayam, must be accepted. There is very little rigorous controlled testing of the more extravagant claims of those who believe in the power of the mind to cure everything from blindness to cancers).’
Ironically she says ‘it does not follow, however, that all the claims of yoga and pranayam, must be accepted,’ which is precisely what I wanted to say to her. If one believes in a ‘higher truth’, it does not follow that all claims made by all yogis are correct. Surely one can be spiritual without believing the power of the mind can cure blindness.
‘Secondly, Harris rejects a naturalistic understanding of nature and the human mind.’
This is false. He doesn’t reject it, but considers both a physicalist and non-physicalist view of consciousness to be possible. To say that something is possible does not imply that everything else is false or not worth considering. In fact, she changes track by first claiming Sam Harris rejects a naturalistic understanding of nature, and then telling us that he believes physicalism can neither be proven nor disproven.
‘On this account, meditative practices slow down the transmission of neural information to the posterior superior parietal lobes of the brain, which controls spatial orientation, resulting in the sensation of pure awareness which is incapable of drawing boundaries between the limited personal self and the external material world. This sensation gets reified into the image of “reality of as a formless unified whole, with no limits, no substance, no beginning and no end.”‘
Oh my God this is the worst one yet. She is committing what I call the Reverse Reification fallacy, which goes something like this: if I can describe what goes on in your brain while you’re experiencing something, that thing has no significance. This is a fallacy because significance or value cannot be derived from any fact. If this were not so, one could describe what parts of the brain are used when one derives a mathematical theorem, and this would reduce the value of the theorem. To say that the theorem is true or that it has implications would be committing the reification fallacy since, after all, some clever scientists managed to tell you what neurons fired when you were figuring it out. Ultimately the practice will be self-defeating, as one can describe what parts of the brain are used in the process of figuring out what parts of the brain are being used, thus rendering the practice itself valueless, and not, at the same time.
‘Just because we can study the neuro-physiology of mysticism in a scientific manner, does not make the experience scientific or rational in any way.’
I would like to replace the second half of the sentence with ‘does not make the experience value-less or without significance’, but since I have already made that point, I’ll take this opportunity to point out that the poor author lacks, or intermittently loses, the ability to make elementary analytical distinctions. She has made a category error by implying that an experience can be unscientific or irrational. An experience cannot be unscientific; a study can be conducted unscientifically, palm-reading can be an unscientific epistemology, but it is meaningless to say that an experience is unscientific. An experience cannot even be false, let alone unscientific. To say that something is rational implies that it is an efficient means to the end it’s supposed to be for, or that it is in touch with reality. The second type of rationality fits into the sentence, but it still remains to be proven that a mystical experience is irrational.
‘One cannot help wondering, why faith in God is not just such a method of “tuning the brain differently” for those who believe in the personal God of the Bible and the Koran? Neurologically speaking, why is God a “delusion,” if mysticism is “astute”?’
I don’t know what she means by ‘neurologically speaking’ – especially since one cannot know what is a delusion and what isn’t merely by understanding the brain – but the difference between believing in the God of the Koran and being spiritual is that the former is dangerous and pragmatically useless, whereas the latter is illuminating and useful. When you pray, your prayer may or may not be answered, making prayer a useless tool for getting what you want. However, when you take a painkiller, your pain goes away most of the time, in a way that doesn’t happen when you don’t take a painkiller. If you were to bet your money on something, you wouldn’t bet your money on praying, regardless of whether or not you believe in God.
On a final note before I conclude, I am tempted to put a quote from William James here, and I will give in to that temptation. From The Varieties of Religious Experience:
‘When we speak disparagingly about “feverish fancies,” surely the fever-process as such is not the ground of our disesteem – for aught we know to the contrary, 103 or 104 [degrees] Fahrenheit might be a much more favorable temperature for truths to germinate and sprout in, than the more ordinary blood-heat of 97 or 98 degrees. It is either the disagreeableness itself of the fancies, or their inability to bear the criticisms of the convalescent hour. When we praise the thoughts which health brings, health’s peculiar chemical metabolisms have nothing to do with determining our judgment… it is the character of inner happiness in the thoughts which stamps them as good, or else their consistency with other opinions and their serviceability for our needs, which make them pass for true in our esteem.’
To conclude this rebuttal the way Meera Nanda concluded her review (look, I even started with ‘to conclude’!): Mysticism is not a rational alternative to faith, it is a rational way of knowing about things science cannot know about, and the concept of ‘faith’ as belief wthout evidence loses its meaning from within a pragmatist worldview. Dissolving our sense of individual self in a larger spiritual one-ness will improve our lives by making us more patient, calm and empathic. Those who cannot accept a personal God on faith alone do not have to reject mysticism or spiritualism as well. Reason bars the first but not the second.


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June 18, 2008 at 11:15 am
ned
Since I’ve been posting a little bit here before this, let me quickly introduce myself. I’m not religious at all, but I am a serious student of esoteric spiritual traditions (which would put me apart from most other folks at this blog who I would assume are atheists or agnostics), i.e. precisely what Meera Nanda criticizes in this article. For the most part, I’ve found that religion is almost the exact opposite of spirituality. Religion is egoic, neurotic, selfish, moralistic and so on — in short, everything that spirituality is trying to address in humanity and help us overcome. With that said, let’s move on.
Butters did a good critique of Nanda’s article, but let me add a few things as something of an “insider” on this subject.
“She says: ‘While he is quick to pour scorn on such childish ideas as the virgin birth, heaven and hell, the great rationalist has only winks and nods to offer when it comes to such “higher” truths as near-death experiences, ESP and the existence of disembodied souls, all of which he finds plausible.’”
I’ll simply add here that the experiences that Sam Harris has talked about are actually widely reported. The American Psychological Association (APA), which is very conservative, did a round-up of evidence on these sorts of anomalous experiences and published a book on the subject. In this book they concluded that these experiences are commonplace, but nobody has any idea exactly what they are or how to explain them. Here is the book:
“Varieties of Anomalous Experience: Examining the Scientific Evidence”
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557986258/
Personally I am not sure myself whether scientific approaches can ever probe these phenomena to a satisfying degree, but for Meera Nanda to act like there isn’t a conversation worth having here is extremely disingenuous when in fact even a conservative organization like the APA is *already* having this conversation.
“But to propose that no area exists other than the one designated to your favourite epistemology is quite another matter.”
Indeed.
And I would add that mysticism is highly compatible with the epistemology known as “radical constructivism” — the idea that our conceptions and perceptions of reality are really just metaphors in our own minds and do not correspond exactly to reality (the opposite of this view is realism).
June 18, 2008 at 11:17 am
ned
‘On this account, meditative practices slow down the transmission of neural information to the posterior superior parietal lobes of the brain, which controls spatial orientation, resulting in the sensation of pure awareness which is incapable of drawing boundaries between the limited personal self and the external material world. This sensation gets reified into the image of “reality of as a formless unified whole, with no limits, no substance, no beginning and no end.”‘
Two points. One, there are serious problems with the localization hypothesis in cognitive neuroscience (a subject I’m studying in grad school). I can’t really go into the details here but in short the idea that we can localize cognitive processes in specific areas of the brain is riddled with numerous philosophical assumptions, apart from which the taxonomies of cognitive processes are totally subjective (for details on this you can read William R. Uttal’s “The New Phrenology”). These issues are being hotly debated these days.
http://www.amazon.com/New-Phrenology-Localizing-Philosophical-Psychology/dp/0262710102/
Second, even if there are specific brain areas or neural firing patterns that correlate with certain subjective phenomena doesn’t mean that those phenomena can be reduced to those brain areas or that those phenomena aren’t valuable or empirically insightful. There is a curious double standard here because really everything we experience can be reduced to neural firing patterns. So why single out only mystical experiences as delusions? Why not say all our sensory experiences are delusions that don’t correspond to reality?
You might argue that the difference is intersubjective agreement, which is possible in the public realm of science, while mystical experiences are private. This is all well and good, except that certain core mystical experiences are curiously transhistorically and cross-culturally consistent (e.g. the classical mystical experience of existential unity).
Moreover, it seems that people who had really mastered these experiences were also able to arrive at intersubjective agreements on various issues. In short, advanced spiritual practitioners report that their mystical experiences correspond to intelligible principles and aren’t just a morass of undisciplined, incoherent experiences.
June 18, 2008 at 11:18 am
ned
“Mysticism is not a rational alternative to faith, it is a rational way of knowing about things science cannot know about, and the concept of ‘faith’ as belief wthout evidence loses its meaning from within a pragmatist worldview.”
Faith in the mystical context means something else. It does not mean “belief without evidence” as in the religious context. It means the faith that one can transform oneself into an agent of benevolence, courage, compassion and love despite all the hatred, pain and division in the world. This faith of mystics is indeed unwavering and it is what I would call “transrational”, not irrational. This faith is not a belief, but a mode of inquiry and an inner lens or awareness through which the world is viewed.
I guess I’ll stop here for now, but this is a pretty vast subject and there is a very thoughtful and nuanced dialogue going on right now.
June 18, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Paul Maurice Martin
“Mysticism is not a rational alternative to faith, it is a rational way of knowing about things science cannot know about.”
How do we know we know?
There is experience itself; and there is interpretation of experience. I’ve meditated for a long time, and while I agree with you about its practical life-enhancing effects, I don’t consider it to be a form of self-validating knowledge about God or the larger world. I don’t see it as irrational – meditation actually helps promote behavior that is more rather than less rational – but it doesn’t strike me as providing a form of rational knowledge either.
I frankly don’t know just what happens when I meditate. There are a few definite things I’ve been prepared to say, but not about the nature of the larger world despite that the experience does involve a sense, which can be very strong, of being connected to a larger reality.
But I have no way of verifying that this is what’s going on. And I’m not sure what rational knowledge can be if not based on some combination of verifiability and logic.
June 18, 2008 at 10:02 pm
buttersisonlymyname
The knowledge is verifiable in the sense that there is intersubjective agreement among practitioners about certain ‘pieces’ of knowledge, such as that the self is an illusion. This is the kind of thing that one cannot really use science to know about, as it can only be known through first hand experience. Whether or not it’s rational is a separate question; I call the knowledge rational because it is subject to discussion and correction, and because it’s useful. Perhaps I should have picked a better word than ‘rational’.
You said you have no way of verifying what’s going on, but by this I’m guessing you mean scientifically verifying. I guess what I’m saying is that you don’t need to verify it scientifically, it doesn’t need science’s permission in a sense. It’s good enough that it works and feels right.
May 12, 2009 at 9:56 am
zoomindianmedia
There are other factual inaccuracies in the motivated calumny of Meera Nanda.
LTTE Prabhakaran is a methodist christian with Marxist links. He has never ever talked of fighting for a Hindu cause as Meera Nanda alludes.
There can not be moral equivalence between totalitarian predatory imperial dogmatic ideologies such as islam and mystic traditions where skeptical pursuit of truth remains paramount belief
As Sam has alluded Dogma based certitudes such as islam, christianity never reflect the majesticity and complexity of nature, creation and life. These are ideologies of barbarians condemned to take its adherents away from civilization and progress. This has been validated through our experiences.
As distinct from simplistic dogma monochromatic weltanschuang in totalitaran beliefs like islam, mystic view asserts differences are inherent in nature. Skepticism, Critical Examining are enouraged. Mystic beliefs urge that change is an inherent part of the fabric of reality of the Cosmos and evolution. Plants, animals, and seasons – everything has differences, cycles built in to them. Differences are built into the way human beings are composed – in their bodies and minds and their cultures and languages. So difference need to be celebrated. Beliefs like Islam of course want differences to be eliminated and make efforts towards this – wanting everyone to join the brotherood.
To summarise, One size fits all approach is a wrong one. One Size (koran, sunna in case of islam, jesus’s personality in case of christianity) backed by centuries of propoganda remain greatest insults to intellect.
It is unfortunate that people like meera nanda perceive moral equivalence between dogmatic assertions(lies on many occasions) and skepticism based pursuit of truth.
May 12, 2009 at 8:39 pm
buttersisonlymyname
There is a false dichotomy in your comment, Zoom India: Islam and mysticism are not two ‘opposite’ or even different things, since Islam has a mystical strain within it, i.e. sufism. Christianity, similarly, has a mystical strain within it, i.e. Christian mysticism.
Also, I do not think Meera Nanda was implying moral equivalence between Islam and the ‘better’ religions you speak of (Hinduism?). Her article was about being an ‘equal opportunity skeptic’, not about implying that all things to be skeptical about are morally equal.
May 24, 2009 at 4:37 pm
sherryx
I was wondering whats you think about Sam Harris’s attempt to be “scientific” with regards to “ethics” [The science of good and evil] I found it rather naive and very dangerous to say the least!!
May 25, 2009 at 5:40 pm
buttersisonlymyname
What does he say about it?
May 27, 2009 at 10:05 am
karachikhatmal
i don’t quite feel qualified to make much of a comment to this fascinating debate, largely because my vernacular lacks the vocabulary of high academia that is in use here. but one thing that does intrigue is how some of us, including Meera Nanda, feel the need to be so hostile towards other beliefs. hostility towards any other frame of thought seems to belie an insecurity which i suppose shouldn’t be present in the mind of a “true” believer. Slightly tautological, but one who feels the need to pounce upon someone else is probably afraid of their own thoughts coming under attack and becoming exposed.
May 27, 2009 at 8:54 pm
buttersisonlymyname
“the vocabulary of high academia that is in use here”
May 27, 2009 at 9:08 pm
stumblingmystic
“the vocabulary of high academia that is in use here”
lol. Trust me, we don’t flatter ourselves that much here.